Comments on: Question of the day: Who does Cruceta replace? http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/2008/04/29/question-of-the-day-who-does-cruceta-replace/ Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:40:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Kurt http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/2008/04/29/question-of-the-day-who-does-cruceta-replace/#comment-29851 Kurt Thu, 01 May 2008 17:05:28 +0000 http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/?p=1249#comment-29851 I just couldn't see the logic in losing a guy who has proven contribution at the major league level when you don't have to. I mean, if Miner didn't have an option and you recognize you probably won't get him or Grilli through the waiver wire, then yeah, a trade for what you can get makes sense. But a trade for a high-A guy when you can send Grilli's younger version to Toledo this season, I still don't think it makes sense to me. I hope I'm wrong. And I still enjoy Grilli's goggles from the Tigers' 2006 celebration -- even if he did borrow the idea from a player for the A's! I just couldn’t see the logic in losing a guy who has proven contribution at the major league level when you don’t have to. I mean, if Miner didn’t have an option and you recognize you probably won’t get him or Grilli through the waiver wire, then yeah, a trade for what you can get makes sense. But a trade for a high-A guy when you can send Grilli’s younger version to Toledo this season, I still don’t think it makes sense to me. I hope I’m wrong.

And I still enjoy Grilli’s goggles from the Tigers’ 2006 celebration — even if he did borrow the idea from a player for the A’s!

]]> By: Scotsw http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/2008/04/29/question-of-the-day-who-does-cruceta-replace/#comment-29845 Scotsw Thu, 01 May 2008 14:09:17 +0000 http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/?p=1249#comment-29845 Thanks, Kurt, but I was only counting on the Genius of Dombrowski, which always seems to be a pretty safe bet. I'm surprised it was Grilli, but I think it's fair to say the Tigers are happy to take a flyer on a second-round draftee. Their options for Grilli were 1) Outright release, eating his contract; 2) Try to clear him through waivers, hoping someone would pick up his contract, but getting nothing 3) Trade him for a prospect, unloading his contract AND getting someone who might contribute later. All credit to the Tigers for finding a way to make #3 work. I'm not counting on this A-ball prospect to turn into a major-league star, but Dombrowski does have a way of identifying unrealized potential, so who knows? He has a better track record than most GMs, I think. Thanks, Kurt, but I was only counting on the Genius of Dombrowski, which always seems to be a pretty safe bet. I’m surprised it was Grilli, but I think it’s fair to say the Tigers are happy to take a flyer on a second-round draftee.

Their options for Grilli were 1) Outright release, eating his contract; 2) Try to clear him through waivers, hoping someone would pick up his contract, but getting nothing 3) Trade him for a prospect, unloading his contract AND getting someone who might contribute later. All credit to the Tigers for finding a way to make #3 work.

I’m not counting on this A-ball prospect to turn into a major-league star, but Dombrowski does have a way of identifying unrealized potential, so who knows? He has a better track record than most GMs, I think.

]]> By: Kurt http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/2008/04/29/question-of-the-day-who-does-cruceta-replace/#comment-29778 Kurt Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:27:30 +0000 http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/?p=1249#comment-29778 Two points. 1) hey look, I'm wrong! 2) Nice call, Scott, on the trade Two points.

1) hey look, I’m wrong!

2) Nice call, Scott, on the trade

]]> By: Scotsw http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/2008/04/29/question-of-the-day-who-does-cruceta-replace/#comment-29770 Scotsw Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:53:45 +0000 http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/?p=1249#comment-29770 What are the possibilities for a trade? Let's say the Tigs package Rapada and Inge for a catcher... Or Rapada straight up for a prospect with a higher ceiling. Grilli's trade value has to be quite low, but Miner could be useful to a team looking for a #5 starter. He's succeeded there before, and someone might be willing to have a look. The Tigers are not just facing the arrival of Cruceta, but in the near future, the return of Willis, Rodney and eventually Zumaya. I think it's likely Rogers heads to the bullpen before the end of this season, as well, with a rotation of: Verlander, Willis, Bonderman, Robertson, Galarraga. So they need to clear out some players via trade, or lose them. What are the possibilities for a trade? Let’s say the Tigs package Rapada and Inge for a catcher… Or Rapada straight up for a prospect with a higher ceiling. Grilli’s trade value has to be quite low, but Miner could be useful to a team looking for a #5 starter. He’s succeeded there before, and someone might be willing to have a look.

The Tigers are not just facing the arrival of Cruceta, but in the near future, the return of Willis, Rodney and eventually Zumaya.

I think it’s likely Rogers heads to the bullpen before the end of this season, as well, with a rotation of: Verlander, Willis, Bonderman, Robertson, Galarraga.

So they need to clear out some players via trade, or lose them.

]]> By: Blake http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/2008/04/29/question-of-the-day-who-does-cruceta-replace/#comment-29767 Blake Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:30:39 +0000 http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/?p=1249#comment-29767 Boy, I knew Cruceta's first appearance was good but I didn't know he was pitching so well. Good to see. I agree with you, I think Miner is gone but I'm also scared it could be Rapada. Rapada has been put in some really tough situations this year and has come through every time. I think he should stay but I admit, I don't always have the same way of thinking as Leyland. Boy, I knew Cruceta’s first appearance was good but I didn’t know he was pitching so well. Good to see. I agree with you, I think Miner is gone but I’m also scared it could be Rapada. Rapada has been put in some really tough situations this year and has come through every time. I think he should stay but I admit, I don’t always have the same way of thinking as Leyland.

]]> By: tbsgc http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/2008/04/29/question-of-the-day-who-does-cruceta-replace/#comment-29761 tbsgc Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:18:19 +0000 http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/?p=1249#comment-29761 If I had to pick it would be Miner that would be sent down. I really like the way Rapada has been pitching since being on the team. I agree with you that Grilli is not that bad. The problem with him is that I just don't think he is the type of guy you can put into a 1 run ball game, as he just doesn't seem to have success in these situations. He is a good innings eater for the bullpen though. If I had to pick it would be Miner that would be sent down. I really like the way Rapada has been pitching since being on the team.

I agree with you that Grilli is not that bad. The problem with him is that I just don’t think he is the type of guy you can put into a 1 run ball game, as he just doesn’t seem to have success in these situations. He is a good innings eater for the bullpen though.

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