Comments on: Sheffield traded to Tigers http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/2006/11/10/sheffield-traded-to-tigers/ Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:50:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: John Watkins http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/2006/11/10/sheffield-traded-to-tigers/#comment-1409 John Watkins Sat, 11 Nov 2006 15:31:36 +0000 http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/2006/11/10/sheffield-traded-to-tigers/#comment-1409 Reading GAME OF SHADOWS. First thought is Tigers are not going to get Barry Bonds. Second thought is remember the at bats by Sheffield in the ALCS. Third thought what part did the steroids that Sheffield took play into his injury and his ability to come back from it. Fourth thought hope this works oout but will not be surprised if it is Eric Davis all over again. Reading GAME OF SHADOWS.
First thought is Tigers are not going to get Barry Bonds.
Second thought is remember the at bats by Sheffield in the ALCS.
Third thought what part did the steroids that Sheffield took play into his injury and his ability to come back from it.
Fourth thought hope this works oout but will not be surprised if it is Eric Davis all over again.

]]> By: johnw http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/2006/11/10/sheffield-traded-to-tigers/#comment-1402 johnw Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:48:14 +0000 http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/2006/11/10/sheffield-traded-to-tigers/#comment-1402 I think the trade helps both teams. The Tigers needed a bat with power and OBA, and still have plenty of young pitching. (Indeed, I assume these guys were not on Dombrowski's A-list.) The Yankees had too many expensive outfielders, and a desperate shortage of prospects. Given the Yanks' track record, the pitchers are more likely to be used as trade bait than they are to ever pitch in pinstripes. Any 38-year-old is a gamble, but (a) Sheffield has held up very well for a long time, and (b) Dombrowski has a great track record at picking older players -- see Magglio, Polanco, Rogers, and Pudge. And if anybody can handle attitude issues, it's Leyland. According to news-conference comments posted on Billfer's blog, Sheffield will mostly DH with some OF duty. Defensively, it's kind of a toss-up between Magglio and Sheff. I think this trade means Marcus Thames is not in the Tigers' plans. At first base, I don't think the Tigers are counting on Chris Shelton or Sean Casey; they're still looking for somebody. Hey, Carlos Pena's available! I think the trade helps both teams. The Tigers needed a bat with power and OBA, and still have plenty of young pitching. (Indeed, I assume these guys were not on Dombrowski’s A-list.) The Yankees had too many expensive outfielders, and a desperate shortage of prospects. Given the Yanks’ track record, the pitchers are more likely to be used as trade bait than they are to ever pitch in pinstripes.

Any 38-year-old is a gamble, but (a) Sheffield has held up very well for a long time, and (b) Dombrowski has a great track record at picking older players — see Magglio, Polanco, Rogers, and Pudge. And if anybody can handle attitude issues, it’s Leyland.

According to news-conference comments posted on Billfer’s blog, Sheffield will mostly DH with some OF duty. Defensively, it’s kind of a toss-up between Magglio and Sheff. I think this trade means Marcus Thames is not in the Tigers’ plans. At first base, I don’t think the Tigers are counting on Chris Shelton or Sean Casey; they’re still looking for somebody. Hey, Carlos Pena’s available!

]]> By: PHIL-the Yankee fan http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/2006/11/10/sheffield-traded-to-tigers/#comment-1400 PHIL-the Yankee fan Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:59:21 +0000 http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/2006/11/10/sheffield-traded-to-tigers/#comment-1400 I'm just kidding but i really think this trade heavily favors the Yankees. I’m just kidding but i really think this trade heavily favors the Yankees.

]]> By: PHIL-the Yankee fan http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/2006/11/10/sheffield-traded-to-tigers/#comment-1399 PHIL-the Yankee fan Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:57:00 +0000 http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/2006/11/10/sheffield-traded-to-tigers/#comment-1399 How much do the Yankees pay of the contract...nothing...this is great. How much do the Yankees pay of the contract…nothing…this is great.

]]> By: PHIL-the Yankee fan http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/2006/11/10/sheffield-traded-to-tigers/#comment-1398 PHIL-the Yankee fan Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:56:08 +0000 http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/2006/11/10/sheffield-traded-to-tigers/#comment-1398 How stupid are the Tigers? I'll answer that question...very... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA What a steal!! How stupid are the Tigers?
I’ll answer that question…very…
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What a steal!!

]]> By: RIYank http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/2006/11/10/sheffield-traded-to-tigers/#comment-1397 RIYank Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:52:03 +0000 http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/2006/11/10/sheffield-traded-to-tigers/#comment-1397 I figure Cashman was asking for Bonderman knowing it would take some kind of hypnosis to get him -- I agree it would have been foolish for the Tigers to let Bonderman go for a 38 year old outfielder. It's a little risky on both sides: prospects, age. But I think the 'expected value' is positive for both sides. The Yankees had five good outfielders plus Jason Giambi to crowd the DH spot, while the Tigers probably don't have room for Sanchez even if he pans out. Come on over to Bronx Banter if you want to see what the pinstripers think! I figure Cashman was asking for Bonderman knowing it would take some kind of hypnosis to get him — I agree it would have been foolish for the Tigers to let Bonderman go for a 38 year old outfielder.

It’s a little risky on both sides: prospects, age. But I think the ‘expected value’ is positive for both sides. The Yankees had five good outfielders plus Jason Giambi to crowd the DH spot, while the Tigers probably don’t have room for Sanchez even if he pans out.

Come on over to Bronx Banter if you want to see what the pinstripers think!

]]> By: Kurt http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/2006/11/10/sheffield-traded-to-tigers/#comment-1394 Kurt Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:37:33 +0000 http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/2006/11/10/sheffield-traded-to-tigers/#comment-1394 Alan Schwarz of Baseball America thought it most likely Sheff plays RF and Magglio moves to DH. I hope that happens. I hated seeing Maggs "when he feels like it" defense, and why risk the knee anyway? In my mind, Detroit is still keeping its eyes open at first base. Alan Schwarz of Baseball America thought it most likely Sheff plays RF and Magglio moves to DH. I hope that happens. I hated seeing Maggs “when he feels like it” defense, and why risk the knee anyway?

In my mind, Detroit is still keeping its eyes open at first base.

]]> By: Doug Purdie http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/2006/11/10/sheffield-traded-to-tigers/#comment-1393 Doug Purdie Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:33:46 +0000 http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/2006/11/10/sheffield-traded-to-tigers/#comment-1393 I like this trade. Big OBP. Big SLG. Just what the line-up needs. We could have used a younger, left-handed bat, but we got great value considering that we only had to part with one top pitching prospect. Here's a question: If Sheffield is played primarily at 1B or at DH, where does that leave Chris Shelton? My guess is that he gets another year in AAA while the Tigers re-sign Casey so they have a lefty-righty platoon option for 1B and DH. BTW - I can't believe that the Tigers were ever entertaining the idea of giving up a 24 year old starter with 10-15 more years of All-Star talent still in reserve. About the only offer I would entertain for Bonderman would be from the Cardinals for a certain 1st baseman. I like this trade. Big OBP. Big SLG. Just what the line-up needs. We could have used a younger, left-handed bat, but we got great value considering that we only had to part with one top pitching prospect.

Here’s a question: If Sheffield is played primarily at 1B or at DH, where does that leave Chris Shelton? My guess is that he gets another year in AAA while the Tigers re-sign Casey so they have a lefty-righty platoon option for 1B and DH.

BTW - I can’t believe that the Tigers were ever entertaining the idea of giving up a 24 year old starter with 10-15 more years of All-Star talent still in reserve. About the only offer I would entertain for Bonderman would be from the Cardinals for a certain 1st baseman.

]]> By: Kurt http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/2006/11/10/sheffield-traded-to-tigers/#comment-1392 Kurt Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:18:20 +0000 http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/2006/11/10/sheffield-traded-to-tigers/#comment-1392 Thanks for stopping by and commenting! I, too, think it's an interesting trade that could either work out for both teams, neither teams, or one of the teams, due to the age and injury-status of the guys involved. I hope it works out well for both teams. I can't tell you much about the other minor leaguers other than to say Claggett was a very good reliever in low-A ball so it's hard to project him into a major league closer for me. Kevin Whelan was thought to be late-reliever material. From the Tigers standpoint, I think Detroit (rightfully) saw Andrew Miller as a lock for the rotation very soon, and this trade allows them to keep Jeremy Bonderman around and try to extend his contract rather than trade him for a bat. Thanks for stopping by and commenting!

I, too, think it’s an interesting trade that could either work out for both teams, neither teams, or one of the teams, due to the age and injury-status of the guys involved. I hope it works out well for both teams.

I can’t tell you much about the other minor leaguers other than to say Claggett was a very good reliever in low-A ball so it’s hard to project him into a major league closer for me. Kevin Whelan was thought to be late-reliever material.

From the Tigers standpoint, I think Detroit (rightfully) saw Andrew Miller as a lock for the rotation very soon, and this trade allows them to keep Jeremy Bonderman around and try to extend his contract rather than trade him for a bat.

]]> By: RIYank http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/2006/11/10/sheffield-traded-to-tigers/#comment-1391 RIYank Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:09:31 +0000 http://www.mackavenuetigers.com/2006/11/10/sheffield-traded-to-tigers/#comment-1391 I think this works well for both teams. Too many outfielders in the Bronx while the Tigers are loaded with young pitching; this deal alleviates both bottlenecks. Most Yankee fans seem happy, anyway -- over at Bronx Banter they (we) are bantering away, and folks are checking out your Humberto Sanchez entry from Oct. 31st, very informative, thanks! I think this works well for both teams. Too many outfielders in the Bronx while the Tigers are loaded with young pitching; this deal alleviates both bottlenecks.
Most Yankee fans seem happy, anyway — over at Bronx Banter they (we) are bantering away, and folks are checking out your Humberto Sanchez entry from Oct. 31st, very informative, thanks!

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